CBC Television, 1964
Directed by Fletcher Markle.
Running time approx. 30 minutes
Hitchcock: I prefer color because there is plenty to dramatize in color by NOT using color until you need it dramatically.
Markle: In the same way that music is often valuable?
Markle: The absence of it?
Hitchcock: Of course.
Markle: Obviously you think very highly of the work of Bernard Herrmann -
Hitchcock: I certainly do.
Markle: He's been involved as the composer and conductor of the music in so many of your recent films. How do you and Mr. Herrmann go about examining the contribution of music in a film?
Hitchcock: I don't know. As far as I'm concerned he does as he likes.
Hitchcock: But, I've always found with musicians you're in their hands anyway. What can you do? So very often I've been asked - not necessarily by Mr. Herrmann, but by other musicians - they say, "Come down, I want to know what you think of this." You go down and you say, "I don't care for it." [And they say,] "Well you can't change it; it's all scored." So the next time you take care and you say, "Can you play me some and let me hear some before you go to the expense of an orchestra?" [And they say,] "Oh no, no. You can't play it on a piano. It's not possible." So there is no way to find out. So you are in the hands of a musician.
Herrmann: (Amused and a little taken aback) Well, ah, Psycho is a very good example of the - if I might put it - of the freedom with which Hitch thinks about music. Originally the plan was in our discussions not to have any music over any of the murder scenes. However I differed with Hitch about this and I felt that music was needed.
And, ah, when the music was recorded and we were dubbing the film and we got to the murder scene and we ran the scenes without the music and then I suggested to Hitch that I would like to show him the same scenes with music. And he said, "I thought we agreed not to have any." And I said, "We can have it that way, but at least listen to it the way I feel about it, that way I have written it." And he said immediately [after seeing the scored version], "We must have the music, of course!" And I said, "But you were against it." And he said, "Oh, no. All I made was an poor suggestion."
[Clip continues to the end of the scene with a fade out of the stabbing knife and Arbogast's groans.]
[Clip from Psycho. Herrmann's voice continues in voice over.]
Psycho is very much, for example like a Wilkie Collins story. I think this is part of Hitch's great heritage as an Englishman and one he has been able to transmute and carry forth in the world of the cinema.
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Director: Fletcher Markle. Editor: Ronald Piggott. Camera: Jack Long. Sound: Dick France. Associate Producer: Peter Kelly. Producer: Ross McLean. Executive Producer: Thom Benson.
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